Former United States (US) intelligence officer David Grusch has claimed that the US government recovered Unidentified Flying Object (UFOs) carrying different types of non-human beings, including human-like creatures, reptilian figures and “small grays”.
Grusch made the claims during an appearance on the Joe Rogan podcast, where he also alleged that some of the beings had killed US service members.
Grusch, a retired US Air Force officer and former intelligence officer at the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) and the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), said that he came across the information while working with the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force (UAPTF) in 2020.
“Even for me, ex-deep state intel officer, I’m like, I cannot believe I’m talking about this on Joe Rogan. And I mean, I know it sounds schizo,” Grusch said during the podcast.
“But one day people will replay the podcast and say, ‘We thought he was crazy, but what do you know? It’s true,’” he added.
Grusch claimed that he had seen a video showing military personnel at what he described as a recent UFO crash site. He said that the footage showed up to four dead beings inside a crescent-shaped craft.
According to Grusch, the beings shown in the video had a human-like appearance and resembled “Greek gods”.
“It was just very beautiful,” he said while describing one of the figures.
Grusch stated that he saw the video as part of his investigation and independently confirmed that it was genuine.
He also claimed that witnesses had reported seeing other creatures resembling large reptilian figures. Grusch said that he had not seen the creatures himself but considered the accounts credible.
“Seven-foot tall plus, gorilla-looking, scaly skin though,” he claimed.
Grusch further alleged that some reptilian beings survived a UFO crash but were later shot by military personnel. He claimed the creatures were killed after one of them killed US personnel at the site.
“They were killed, they are mortal,” Grusch said.
“At some point that story will come out. I’m sure the people who were in some of those events will speak publicly at some point,” he predicted.
Grusch also claimed that the reptilian beings were operating a so-called Tic Tac-shaped UFO, similar to the object US Navy Commander David Fravor reported seeing off the coast of San Diego in 2004.
He said that other reported non-human beings included “small grays” and claimed some of the different species were hostile towards each other.
Grusch suggested that clashes between non-human beings could explain some UFO crashes later recovered by the US government.
“Why do these things keep crashing,” Rogan asked.
“Some of it is [non-human intelligence] versus [non-human intelligence],” Grusch replied. “You would think, it’s like, would they get along? They’re so advanced. But we have records of them f–king around with each other.”
Grusch also claimed that the recovered craft came in different shapes, including Tic Tac-shaped objects, discs, egg-like craft, boomerangs and crescent-shaped vehicles.
He said that he expects information about the alleged programme to become public before US President Donald Trump’s current term ends.
“So I believe that before Trump’s term ends that it’s all going to come out,” Grusch stressed.
“Everything I’ve testified about, the fact that we’ve been studying this for a while. We’ve recovered material intact, semi-intact craft. We’ve recovered this anomalous intelligence piloting craft. And, you know, we are reverse engineering that,” he added.
